@deegee "God seems to take delight in feeding into Satan's desire to harm and destroy His creation instead of simply casting Satan and the demons to some obscure, gaseous ball of hydrogen 45 billion light years away."
Thanks for the credit:
look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.
now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.
@deegee "God seems to take delight in feeding into Satan's desire to harm and destroy His creation instead of simply casting Satan and the demons to some obscure, gaseous ball of hydrogen 45 billion light years away."
Thanks for the credit:
i was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.
but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.
we are not mindless automatons.
@James Donalds If none of your "worldly" activities are controversial in your congregation, why do you have to hide the fact that you vote, dear? If you're loud and proud about the double life you lead, perhaps you wouldn't mind sharing your real name and congregation. I'm sure you wouldn't have a problem with your COBE being informed of this fine Witness you've given to all of us (including "worldly" people who are interested in JWs) on here :D.
Warm Apostate Love,
WHAM!
confidential items are of most interest of course, just curious what they're talking about there in general and what are the newest things everyone is being warned about, etc.
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@jp1692
Luckily Stephen (Smoking-Hot) Lett is right up there with a young Bob Redford.
i've scoured the database but not finding any quotes.. does anyone know of watchtower quotes speaking to the effect that the greek scriptures were written only for the anointed?.
Hey there, I think this video might point you in the right direction:
it`s christmas eve here in australia today and i wish all of you a very merry xmas simply because i can without being zapped , or hauled into a jc committee.. it doesn`t matter whether you are religious or not , i`m not now , however i can appreciate and respect those who do.. so whatever your views on the matter have a great day and enjoy the holidays in whatever grabs your fancy.. and if jw`s do come knocking on your door as they do this festive season wish them a merry xmas and anti-witness to them ..
Merry Christmas!!! This year is just my kiddo and I (we're only six months faded and are still creating our own family of special friends). Since McDonald's is the only place open on Christmas day, I think I'll take him there to give him his gift. xoxoxox
i know this is kind of trivial but i don’t want to partake in something that might have connections with something that jehovah disapproves of.
i checked the watchtower library and i didn’t find anything on gingerbread man cookies.. .
good lord...how incredibly stupid and helpless are jdubs getting?
Urgh, I got a dummy text from an uber Dub on Jan 5 this year:
JW: Hey, I have a question for your dad as the only article is in a WT91 that I can't seem to access. [Fiance's name]'s grandma just died, is it appropriate to send flowers to his mum. It doesn't seem to be an issue from google bbut I just want to make sure it's not pagan or something???
Me: I'll check his bound volume library when I go over this afternoon. They put flowers in a KH for a funeral, hon, so don't sweat too much over it. X
JW: YeAh I thought it was fine but I rather play it safe then regret later. Thanks heaps, it's just not available electronically
Me: [MMS of Sep 15 1991 WT Questions from Readers, "Is it Right for Christians to send flowers for a funeral?"]
JW: Ahhhh so it's okay. Thank you so much!!!!
Me: You can send flowers after all, just not in the shape of a cross or pentagram, lol.
So there you have it, folks. She could send flowers to show some respect for somebody's loss without fear of worshiping a pagan god, resulting in Jehovah smiting her at Armageddon. Bitch be like:
something just dawned on me today as i processed my assimilation into the real world (thanks to our new poster, @jester, giving me a major throwback to my first post).. when you're a jehovah's witness, you really are in some sort of la la land.
things which are perfectly normal are acts of eating from the table of the demons.
things which are horribly grotesque and extremely unjust are branded as "righteousness".
@fulltimestudent Fkn lol. Just make sure you're not raising your hand when you're asking to be unprivileged. That's too much of a luxury in the JW world:
a couple of times at the meetings this year we've been told that in the future we might get some strange directions from the society that might not make any sense to us.
then they've said will we show our loyalty to jehovah by still obeying?
seems a rather unusual thing to say.
@Jrjw Perhaps start asking, "if these men are neither inspired nor infallible and are subject to erring in doctrinal matters, where are they getting these instructions from that won't make sense from a human standpoint?"
They do, after all, claim to be "imperfect men" when they f*ck up royally. So when these instructions they issue don't make sense to the rest of us imperfect humans, the same can be said for these men at the top who are making the rules as they go.
Why on earth would you want to follow orders from someone who they themselves can't make sense of the commands? This is a recipe for disaster.
"Loyal" isn't even the right word to describe it. It is reckless.
something just dawned on me today as i processed my assimilation into the real world (thanks to our new poster, @jester, giving me a major throwback to my first post).. when you're a jehovah's witness, you really are in some sort of la la land.
things which are perfectly normal are acts of eating from the table of the demons.
things which are horribly grotesque and extremely unjust are branded as "righteousness".
@pale.emperor You know how you disarm JWs with their jargon by calling it "the religion" instead of "the Truth"? From here on out, we should start referring to these so-called "privileges" as "rights".
If any JW asks me about my journey as a Witness in my cong, I'll casually talk about how I worked really hard as a single mother balancing out meetings, etc, etc, "and eventually, the elders gave me back my rights." Or if someone hasn't been commenting lately and JWs are talking about how so-and-so has been quiet at the meetings, I'll say, "maybe the elders took away his rights."
Hopefully that causes some thought provocation! We never think of these things as Witnesses.
something just dawned on me today as i processed my assimilation into the real world (thanks to our new poster, @jester, giving me a major throwback to my first post).. when you're a jehovah's witness, you really are in some sort of la la land.
things which are perfectly normal are acts of eating from the table of the demons.
things which are horribly grotesque and extremely unjust are branded as "righteousness".
Something just dawned on me today as I processed my assimilation into the real world (thanks to our new poster, @Jester, giving me a major throwback to my first post).
When you're a Jehovah's Witness, you really are in some sort of la la land. Things which are perfectly normal are acts of eating from the table of the demons. Things which are horribly grotesque and extremely unjust are branded as "righteousness". And when you're in that tiny little JW bubble (which feels like the WHOLE WIDE WORLD to you), the Witnesses hold the monopoly on setting standards and it's the entire world which falls short.
Something as basic as speaking. Yes, just talking. This, in JW land is referred to as a PRIVILEGE. Your basic human right of contributing to a public discussion is something to be earned. To hold a microphone... that's another "privilege". Now that I'm out and thinking of these things from a regular person's perspective, I've realized just how demented and manipulative that truly is. The entire set up demotes us human beings as some scummy slaves who need to EARN their right to open their mouths when in the presence of others. It's packaged as a privilege to JWs to make sure they know their lowly place and be eternally grateful just to contribute verbally.
It's almost like some 18th century slavery in colonial America where the blacks were denied their basic rights and the whites perhaps chose to toss them some filthy scraps to eat and considered that a "privilege" for the oppressed.
I can't believe I never noticed this while still in. It all felt so normal and nothing to even question/raise eyebrows at! Looking in from the outside reveals a very different story. Each week that goes by and I think I'm fully awake, I come to realize there's more to uncover from all the deep-seated cult ideals that were instilled in me. No, it is not a privilege to speak or assist at functions (be it with sound equipment or taking inventory for stock). This is my right. This is my standard. This is what I do.
Anyone who tells you otherwise is still living in the vicinity of this la la dictatorship. Being given the privilege to open your mouth and utter words is as much of a "privilege" as being allowed to step out of your house wearing clothes. For those of you still in, STOP letting the WT strip you naked. It's humiliating and keeps you from noticing their own bare shame.